Build Long-Term Wealth using our Diversified ETF Model Portfolios

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Synopsis: This article will provide example ETF model portfolios with a focus on building an ETF portfolio that is both low cost and very easy to manage. We will explain the benefits of owning diversified ETFs and how vital we believe it is to invest for the long-term letting compounding do its work.

Wouldn’t you just love to find the way to invest that delivered amazing results with ease? Invest in a way that required little effort, little monitoring and significantly less stress?

What do you suspect might happen if you invested this way over time, such that, your invested money simply gained momentum without you doing anything at all – like a snowball tumbling down a mountain?

We can attest from our personal experiences that given a modest amount of mountain runway (i.e. time), an investing snowball will absolutely grow and compound if your money was invested wisely.

In fact, your money mountain might be so big that in about 30 years, your portfolio could help fund most of your retirement without any other income.

This article will update our thoughts related to the key to build your money mountain using a set of low-cost, diversified Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) showing you step-by-step how that can be done.

Your benefits in owning diversified ETFs in a Portfolio

We won’t dive too deep into the merits of ETFs over some mutual funds but we believe it’s important to recall why some ETFs should be considered as part of your model portfolio below – and why we use some of these ETFs for our own portfolios as well.

Why ETFs?

Simply put, ETFs are baskets of individual securities, much like mutual funds but with two key differences:

1. As the name suggests, ETFs can be traded like stocks, on an exchange, while mutual fund transactions don’t occur until the market closes.

2. Some ETFs tend to have expense ratios (i.e., fees) far lower than those of mutual funds because some ETFs are passively managed – they are funds tied to an underlying index or market sector. Mutual funds, on the other hand, tend to be more actively managed. Because actively managed funds incur costs to chase or attempt to “beat the market”, many mutual funds simply cannot keep up with the performance of the market or index they track due to those costs. Those trading costs and fees are a major barrier to overcome to deliver performance results. Arguably, low-cost, diversified ETFs that track an established index tend to make better wealth-building vehicles than actively-managed, higher-cost mutual funds.

So, combined with low-cost fees we believe the best reasons to own the ETFs we’ll highlight below, is diversification.

For example, purchasing an ETF that tracks the technology sector only (while potentially rewarding at times) will only give you ownership in a basket of tech stocks. As the old cliché goes, you do not want to put all your eggs into one basket. We have no idea if Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Tesla, or any other tech-related company will thrive long term. By owning an ETF that invests beyond the tech sector into other market sectors like financial services, consumer goods, energy, healthcare, and beyond, thankfully we don’t have to guess!

A diversified ETF can guard against market volatility (up to a certain point) if certain stocks or certain stocks in some sectors, fall. This removal of company-specific or sector-specific risk is a big advantage for many passive investors.

The other huge advantage to using diversified ETFs to build your portfolio is – they can generate tremendous amounts of wealth over time.

Your keys to wealth building

Investing experts, including the legendary Warren Buffett and his teacher, investing author and economist Benjamin Graham, have said for decades the best way to build wealth is to keep investments for the long term.

There’s a simple reason why this works: while stocks are very likely to go up and down in the short-term, with time, keeping them for a long period of time (as in decades) helps even out these near-term ups-and-downs. In fact, long-term, the growth of stocks more than makes up for any a few months or even a year of market calamity.

Have a look at this chart. You might remember The Great Recession triggered by the financial crisis during 2008-2010. March 2009 seemed to be a very bad time to be in stocks as part of the S&P 500 U.S index.

Maybe for investors who got spooked, it was.

Source: Macrotrends.net

Now look at what has happened since March 2009:

S&P 500 Returns Updated

Source: https://www.slickcharts.com/sp500/returns

Those blue lines indicate very good gains overall!

In a table: S&P 500 Total Returns by Year

YearTotal Return
20233.87
2022-18.11
202128.71
202018.40
201931.49
2018-4.38
201721.83
201611.96
20151.38
201413.69
201332.39
201216.00
20112.11
201015.06
200926.46
2008-37.00

So, while 2008 was terrible, having a long-term investing plan in an S&P 500 index fund in this case, was very, very smart. 

Keeping investments for the long-term will undoubtedly help you grow your money mountain.

Before we get to the ETFs that can do that for you, here are some takeaways when it comes to wealth-building in general:

  1. Money invested needs to grow uninterrupted (as we have shared above, your investing strategy must be maintained through through good times and bad – with minimal trading);
  2. Money invested needs time (your eyes need to be on the horizon and focused on the long-term, ideally measured in years or decades. The secret sauce to growing your portfolio to tremendous heights will be the compounding effects of investing which are most significant in the later years – because money that makes money, can make more money); and,
  3. Money invested needs the proper conditions (your portfolio needs to be low-cost, diversified and appropriate for your risk tolerance. Your investment selections need to be something that you’ll be confident in adding to whether markets are high or low. In fact, you’ll ideally buy more ETF units during times of market corrections! The key is to invest using a strategy that requires little effort, little monitoring and significantly less stress. You want to avoid being your own worst enemy).

“This focus on the short term is hard to reconcile with any fundamental view of investing. We can examine the drivers of equity returns to see what we need to understand in order to invest. At a one-year time horizon, the vast majority of your total return comes from changes in valuation—which are effectively random fluctuations in price. However, at a five-year time horizon, 80 percent of your total return is generated by the price you pay for the investment plus the growth in the underlying cash flow. These are the aspects of investment that fundamental investors should understand, and they clearly only matter in the long term.”

― James Montier, The Little Book of Behavioral Investing: How Not to Be Your Own Worst Enemy

About our Diversified ETF Model Portfolios

Our suggestions below are just that. The facts are, there are many ETF options out there that may include your preferred mix of asset classes (your predominant mix of stocks and bonds) and percentages of those asset classes.

Risk Management

Ultimately, you should invest in a manner that is aligned with your risk profile. Very conservative investors should allocate more to bonds in their portfolio than stocks. More aggressive investors, who will not sell stocks when markets go haywire, may want to hold the opposite.

In addition, as you get closer to retirement, you’ll want to reduce the sequence of returns risk by reducing equities exposure.

Check out our deeper dive related to managing sequence of returns risks here.

Remember that big equity market drop above related to the 2008 timeframe?

Well, a high equities exposure could spell trouble for your portfolio. Then add-on withdrawals from your portfolio on top of that drop, that could damage your portfolio beyond repair.

A 100% equities portfolio would have seen nearly a 50% drop in portfolio value during the entire financial crisis which is likely a worse-case scenario for most.

Alternatively, instead of 100% equities, an allocation to a bond ETF can act as a cushion for volatility helping to reduce large portfolio drops (and panic), but the trade-off being that bonds also act as a drag on gains as well.

You’ll need to make your own decision on where you stand in terms of equity/bond allocation, but as mentioned above, you might want to consider decreasing your equity exposure as you get closer to retirement.

As a baseline, financial experts like Dr. Sherry Cooper (Economist and Exec at BMO) believe that retirees should aim to have at least 50% equity allocation in their portfolio.

Another recommendation from expert Frederick Vettese (Chief Actuary of Morneau Shepell), states that with current ultra-low interest rates resulting in much lower expected bond performance going forward, retirees should aim for at least 60% equities (35% bond index, 5% ultra short term bonds).

Your mileage may vary. 

Keep costs low!

Our table below highlights some of the lowest-cost products available – largely because we also invest this way using some low-cost, diversified ETFs in addition to our basket of dividend paying stocks for income. 

Is Dividend Investing Right for You?

While investment costs are always important, costs are just one factor to consider. Even though the sample / model ETFs below has some rock-bottom money management fees, just make sure you have the ability to stick to a plan you firmly believe in. Trading in-and-out of ETFs might not only cost you money in transaction fees but it might also lead to poor overall returns.

Ultimately, your savings rate combined with your ability to stick with a well-thought out investing plan will lead to success. That could be with ETFs only, a mix of stocks and ETFs, or any other modified approach. 

Diversified ETF Model Portfolios

For the most part, we’re going to assume you’re investing in your financial future primarily using the Tax-Free Savings Account (TFSA) and Registered Retirement Savings Plan (RRSP). 

We wrote very comprehensive posts about each account we update every year so we encourage you to read those below!

While many of these ETF products below in our model portfolio options could also fit into your taxable, and your Registered Education Savings Plan (RESP) investing plans, among others, we’ll assume for now you might want to take a slightly different approach. We’ll cover off ways to be more tax efficient in a taxable account or using tax-deferred RESPs in other articles over time. 

 

For tax efficiency ideas though, we have included a few ETFs below to consider and we’ll call those out.

2023 Model ETF Portfolio #1 – Canadian Equity Index, ex-Canada Index, and Bond Index – Three Fund Solution

We believe this solution works well for investors focused on using the TFSA and RRSP for multi-decade investing.

You can use a Canadian-listed ETF for your TFSA and RRSP, to avoid worrying about any Canadian to U.S. dollar currency conversions. Simply buy and hold, and keep adding contributions to your TFSA and RRSP every year, buying each fund below periodically to keep your transaction costs low. 

Investors should know that two of these funds below (ZCN and XAW) are low are 100% equity ETFs, so you’ll need to ride out short-term market volatility from time-to-time since equity markets can tank 10%, 20% or even 30% or more once in a while.

To help you on your investing journey, we’ve added the consideration for a great low-cost bond ETF like ZAG to help you ride out those equity bumps. 

This portfolio solution is designed for investors with a long-term investing horizon, as in decades, providing you with lots of compounding to work its magic! You’ll own equities and bonds in three funds.

 

 The In-Canada, ex-Canada, and Bonds – Your Three Fund Solution:

ETFMER – TFSAMER – RRSPMER – Non-Reg
ZCN0.06%0.06%0.06%
XAW0.53% (0.22%  + 0.31%*)0.53% (0.22%  + 0.31%*)0.26% (0.22%  + 0.04%*)
ZAG0.09%0.09%0.09%

Why these funds? Why the asterisk?

*Foreign Withholding Taxes (FWT) Apply and these are estimates. 

Without getting into too many details, you should know that a Canadian-listed ETF that invests in U.S. stocks, or U.S. ETFs, or that invests in ETFs that hold international stocks will have some *foreign distributions withheld based on the tax treaties associated with those countries the ETF invests in.

A quick Google search will highlight lots of articles about Foriegn Withholding Taxes (FWT for short) so we won’t repeat all details here.

Essentially, not all countries manage taxes, investments nor investment accounts the same.

This is why you see the asterisk. 

A Canadian-listed ETF like XAW will have some of its foreign distributions withheld. Withheld means you never see part of the ETF distribution. It is withheld at the source (e.g., the U.S. IRS).

The FWT* for XAW is about 0.31% based on our information. *Source: https://www.canadianportfoliomanagerblog.com/calculators/

XAW tracks the performance of the MSCI ACWI ex-Canada IMI Index, which allocates most of its holdings to U.S. equities, a smaller portion to international equities ,then even less to emerging markets equities.

Unless you’re an investor with larger 6-figure TFSA or RRSP value, or other tax-deferred accounts, we believe owning XAW is a great way for Canadian investors to diversify away from Canadian borders at a low cost even with FWT taken into account. 

We’re a big fan of ZCN because it is one the leading low-cost ways to invest in the Canadian stock market. This way, you don’t have to guess what big Canadian bank will outperform the other or if Shopify will continue to soar to new highs! You own all those stocks for a rock-bottom price. 

Because ZCN is a Canadian-listed ETF that invests in Canadian stocks, you won’t need to worry about FWT because you’re not investing in foreign companies.

There are of course many other great Canadian-listed ETFs to consider so we’ve highlighted a few others below by company provider and ETF ticker should you want to explore them beyond BMO’s very popular ZCN:

  • iShares – XIC, XIU
  • Vanguard Canada – VCN, VCE

To reduce the volatility of your portfolio, especially as you approach retirement, as mentioned above you’ll want to look into a bond ETF. We like BMO’s ZAG bond index ETF, but iShares and Vanguard also offer strong bond index ETFs in iShares XBB and Vanguard VAB.

Disclosure: Both Cashflows & Portfolios owners (Mark and Joe) own a bunch of XAW at the time of this post. 

2023 Model ETF Portfolio #2 – Go Global with All-in-One ETF Solutions!

Since the launch of these funds a few years back, these asset allocation ETFs or as we like to call them, all-in-one ETFs have become a very easy and popular way to build an ETF portfolio – at a very low cost.

Based on the product you choose, these all-in-one ETF solutions essentially hold a pre-determined mix of stocks and bonds, in a fund of a fund approach. 

By using this packaging structure, you can invest in a globally diversified portfolio in just one ETF.

Amazing.

So, in your all-in-one ETF solution there is no longer a need to rebalance your portfolio amongst funds. 

We like that for many investors because that should equate to less trading costs. Less trading and tinkering with your portfolio should ultimately yield better returns.

We have offered a few of those all-in-one solutions below for you to consider, but by no means are these the end of the list. 

You’ll also see in our list below, we have options for “balanced” portfolios all the way to 100% equity. We simply believe that most investors (like us!) that are still in our asset accumulation years should hold more stocks than bonds to take advantage of long-term equity growth.

However, we recognize not everyone wants to ride the market roller coaster so some bonds in your all-in-one ETF solution may make some sense to help you ride out that market volatility and stay invested.

In other articles and sections on our site, we’ll share ETF portfolios and strategies that might be more appealing to semi-retirees or retirees. For now, consider more stocks than bonds for portfolio growth. 

Which ETF Should I Buy?

As long as you are in the mode to grow your portfolio over a multi-decade investing timeline, we don’t think you can stray too far off course with any of these options below.

Again, the beauty behind all-in-one or asset allocation ETFs is they eliminate the need for any manual rebalancing and they’ve designed-in-your risk tolerance. They also have built-in diversification.

If your investing timeline is measured in decades, a good bet is to own 100% equity ETFs or “GRO” funds that have a complete or stronger bias to equities vs. bonds. 

If you are looking for a lower volatility ETF portfolio that offers both long-term capital growth and some income, the “BAL” funds could be better for you.

Here are the major players and firms involved:

Here is our quick summary:
 
Fund Mix (Equities / Bonds)Vanguard CanadaiSharesBMOHorizons
Conservative (40/60)VCNSXCNSZCON 
Balanced (60/40)VBALXBALZBAL 
Growth (80/20)VGROXGROZGRO 
All Equity (100/0)VEQTXEQTZEQTHEQT
IncomeMeh – other funds are betterMeh – other funds are betterZMI*Not yet researched

*Yes, ZMI.

We added this BMO ETF as a steady income play that is also nicely diversified for a very reasonable fee. This fund might be a good bet for any retirees seeking to earn (monthly) income from their portfolio without having the need to sell ETF units, at least right away, for income generation.

Here is our quick guideline to help you choose the right all-in-one ETF for you:

  • Are you feeling conservative?
    • Consider this fund if your investing timeline is short and/or you don’t want to stomach too much market volatility. More bonds can be parachutes for your portfolio when equities tank.
  • Do you appreciate some balance in your life?
    • Balanced ETFs have more equity exposure than bonds and are designed to be more pension-like in terms of that equity-to-bond mix.
  • Do you appreciate growth?
    • We believe if your investing timeline is >10 years or so, best to have a strong bias to equities to realize higher returns. You will need to accept more near-term market volatility, however.
  • Can you handle 100% equity?
    • We believe if your investing timeline is at least 10 years, and you have the strong stomach to ride any stock market returns in any given year (good or bad), these funds (VEQT, XEQT, ZEQT, HEQT) offer 100% equity exposure and no fixed income for potentially the highest returns.

Pick a fund that matches your risk tolerance (i.e., a fund that balances your personal risk and reward balance whereby you won’t sell any units regardless of what is happening in the markets).

Essentially, the higher the equity percentage, the more volatile the price will be (up and down), but will provide higher returns over the long-term.

Here are some of the fees you might expect, some examples:

ETFMER – TFSAMER – RRSPMER – Non-Reg
VEQT (100% equities)0.46% (0.24% + 0.22%*)0.46% (0.24% + 0.22%*)0.26% (0.24% + 0.02%*)
XEQT (100% equities)0.42% (0.20% + 0.22%*)0.42% (0.20% + 0.22%*)0.21% (0.20% + 0.01%*)
VGRO (80% equity/20% bonds)0.43% (0.24% + 0.19%*)0.43% (0.24% + 0.19%*)0.26% (0.24% + 0.02%*)
XGRO (80% equity/20% bonds)0.37% (0.20% + 0.17%*)0.37% (0.20% + 0.17%*)0.21% (0.20% + 0.01%*)
VBAL (60% equity/40% bonds)0.41% (0.24% + 0.17%*)0.41% (0.24% + 0.17%*)0.25% (0.24% + 0.01%*)
XBAL (60% equity/40% bonds)0.33% (0.20% + 0.13%*)0.33% (0.20% + 0.13%*)0.21% (0.20% + 0.01%*)

*Foreign Withholding Taxes (FWT) Apply and these are estimates. 

What do we really like?

When it comes to 100% equity solutions, we have a slight bias to XEQT over VEQT because of the lower fees and XEQT tends to hold less Canadian assets. While investing in Canada is all fine and good (we here at Cashflows & Portfolios do that too!), Canada makes up typically 2-4% of the global equity market. So, if you’re going to invest in stocks best invest in literally a world of stocks for global returns. Our favourite all-equity product from this list is HEQT. It has a slight tech-tilt that we like for longer-term, potentially higher returns. 🙂

Disclosure: Both Cashflows & Portfolios owners (Mark and Joe) own HEQT at the time of this post. 

2023 Model ETF Portfolio #3 – The Tax Savvy Solution (most efficient solution)

If you’re an investor with a relatively large RRSP or TFSA balance, you may want to consider replacing XAW or any of your all-in-one Canadian-listed ETFs with a U.S.-listed ETF – especially in your RRSP.

Why?

Remember those tax treaties we talked about above? Well, thanks to our tax treaty with the U.S. any U.S. -listed ETF (or U.S. stocks) inside an RRSP, a LIRA (Locked-In Retirement Account), or even a RRIF (Registered Retirement Income Fund) will avoid any FWT.

So, by owning U.S.-listed ETFs inside your RRSP (or LIRA or RRIF) you will get all the ETF distributions they pay out.

How much could that save you on a $100,000 invested asset inside your RRSP? Let’s go through an example.

Say you owned one our favourite low-cost ex-Canada ETF in your RRSP: XAW. While you won’t save any money on the MER of 0.22% by owning XAW in your RRSP, you will save the 0.31% withholding taxes if you “debundle” XAW from its fund of funds, and own the top funds directly as U.S.-listed ETFs they are:

  • ITOT
  • XEF
  • IEMG

Source for any current updates and weights: https://www.blackrock.com/ca/investors/en/products/272108/ishares-core-sp-us-total-market-index-etf

By debundling XAW in this example only, you could be saving hundreds of dollars per year in FWT.

Although you’ll need to factor in the MERs for your new three U.S.-listed ETFs, on a $100,000 allocation to XAW, that 0.31% FWT will no longer consume about $310 per year – money you never see because foreign taxes are withheld.

Our example brings us to this table below, one of the most efficient ETF portfolios you can build today given the low-cost structure of these ETFs, the global diversification these ETFs provide, and the tax-efficiency associated with owning Canadian-listed ETFs that own Canadian stocks in your RRSP or TFSA, and owning U.S.-listed ETFs (if you’re going to own them) inside RRSPs (or other tax-deferred accounts like LIRAs or RRIFs).

ETFMER – TFSAMER – RRSPMER – Non-Reg
ZCN (CAD)0.06%0.06%0.06%
VTI (US)0.29% (0.03% + 0.26%*)0.03%0.03%
VXUS (US)0.72% (0.09% + 0.63%*)0.31% (0.09% + 0.22%*)0.31% (0.09% + 0.22%*)

*Foreign Withholding Taxes (FWT) Apply and these are estimates. 

Why these funds?

We’ve referenced ZCN above for Canadian content. 

We’re big fans of U.S.-listed VTI because it owns almost 4,000 U.S. stocks for just three (3) dollars for every $10,000 invested. That is correct, and not a typo!

By owning VTI, you don’t have to guess if Apple or Microsoft, Amazon or Alphabet, will be the biggest and most successful company over time. You own them all!

VXUS, another Vanguard U.S.-listed ETF, owns over 7,000 stocks from around the world beyond the U.S. border – so you can take advantage of emerging markets, european and also pacific-rim companies from those countries for more rock-bottom fees. Of course, there are other ways to invest beyond VXUS, this is just an example to consider… 

There are of course many other great U.S. -listed ETFs to consider – so checkout both iShares and Vanguard sites in particular for more options.

Disclosure: Joe at Cashflows & Portfolios owns VTI at the time of this post.

Diversified Model ETF Portfolio Summary

For investors with longer timelines (ie. younger investors) – we simply believe the best way to build wealth (over time) is to learn to live with stocks in your portfolio and train your investing brain to celebrate market declines as reasons to buy more of these of your favourite low-cost ETFs.

For those approaching retirement, then it may be wise to reduce market volatility by reducing your equity exposure (some experts state that 50-60% equities for retirees (but no less than that!) could be appropriate).

We recognize there are many ways to slice-and-dice these ETFs for more portfolio versions, let alone there are many more ETFs you can buy and hold. 

We wanted to put these options together to demonstrate that successful portfolio building need not be complex, it does not require hours of stock research (like we have done in the past!), nor does the process need to be overwhelming. We want to help you overcome investing paralysis by analysis!

As we watch for trends and even better ETF solutions to help you invest better, we’ll update this post and share new options with you. We’ll also profile different ETFs on our site over time so you can compare what might make sense for your investment path. 

In closing, as DIY investors for decades now, we’ll continue with our individual paths that marry a combination of individual stocks (some of our explore) to go along with some of these ETFs above (that form some of our core investments). 

At Cashflows & Portfolios, even though our investment plans are similar many of our holdings are actually very different. So, we encourage you to determine an investing approach that matches your tolerance for risk, that aligns to your behavioural temperament, and that helps you reach the financial objectives you’re working so hard for.

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Stay tuned for more updated content, case studies and great articles from the personal finance and investing landscape over time.

Mark and Joe.

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24 thoughts on “Build Long-Term Wealth using our Diversified ETF Model Portfolios”

  1. I have a question about the all-in-one ETF with both bonds and equities. If a retiree is using one of these doesn’t that present the same sequence of return risk issue? Meaning, with a single ETF withdrawals will still have to be made even if stocks are severely down. There is no flexibility to withdraw from the bond/income portion only until stocks recover?

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    • That’s an insightful question Dawn and we believe that really speaks to how a retiree will need to consider their down down plans in retirement.

      Sequence of return risk really boils down to how many bad, consequence years, can things get in our opinion – and having a plan to survive that easily.
      https://www.cashflowsandportfolios.com/the-truth-about-retirement-income-planning/

      With all-in-one ETFs that have a mix of stocks and bonds, you can’t debundle and sell parts of the bonds and stocks within the fund. It’s a package deal.

      To your point, in retirement, there could be more flexibility in having a bond ETF (to buy more or sell) or a few equity ETFs (to buy more or sell) to manage the portfolio with but that could also come with more portfolio monitoring, transaction costs and other factors.

      Single ETF withdrawals of any all-in-one fund will not combat poor sequence of return risks alone, but if the withdrawals are small enough, they could certainly help and buy time for the stock portion of the all-in-one fund to rise again.

      We’ll be writing many case studies in the coming months about how some retirees or prospective retirees want to manage those types of risks in retirement so do stay tuned to this channel. We think they will be very helpful to Canadians.

      CAP

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  2. Very good article. Are the withholding taxes this high? I thought VTI’s w/h tax is 15%?
    How can I find out the actual % for Vanguard VIU and VWO?

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    • Thanks Kevin!

      Yes, U.S. FWT are always this high = 15%.
      You can actually find a very comprehensive FWT tax table by country here.
      https://assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/pdf/2016/06/Non-Resident-Withholding-Tax-Rates-for-Treaty-Countries-v2.pdf

      For U.S. ETFs and stocks, there is 15% withholding tax so the same would apply to VWO if you do not hold those ETFs inside an RRSP, LIRA or RRIF.

      VIU on the other than is a Canadian-listed ETF that holds international assets. That would have FWT since not all countries manage taxation the same let alone do we have equal tax treaties for RRSPs, LIRAs, TFSAs, etc. with all countries.

      The MER on VIU is 0.22% I believe.
      We anticipate the total costs of VIU including MER would be closer to 0.50% including withholding taxes inside a TFSA or RRSP.
      VIU held in a taxable account would be around 0.23% or 0.24%.

      CAP

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  3. Since the Horizon all in one funds are structured differently, would there be any FWT if HBAL or HGRO were held in a LIRA or TFSA account?

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    • Hi Michelle! My understanding from working with Horizons is that since there is no dividend from HBAL or HGRO, there would be no FWT within any account. However, with automatic rebalancing of the ETF products that make up HBAL/HGRO, there will likely be capital gains tax at the end of the year. To avoid the capital gains tax, you’ll need to own the ETFs that make up HBAL/HGRO separately.

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  4. Is it “smart” to invest in multiple ETFs within a TFSA? i.e. purchase VGRO and VEQT. Or is it better to focus on one and ride that out?

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    • Hi Y!

      VGRO is very similar to VEQT (80%) + bond ETF (20%). So if you own both VGRO + VEQT, you will get some duplication. If you are getting close or are in retirement, it might be wise to own a bond ETF separately so that you can control what you sell (bonds/equities) in any particular year. Does this answer your question?

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      • Thanks for the reply. In my mid-30s and looking to invest in a/some ETFs, I’ve read about VGRO being a good long term move. Would you suggest something else for a TFSA? RRSP and RDSP are in WealthBar’s (CI Direct) private ‘balanced’ portfolios. Risk tolerance is typically medium for about 20-25 years.

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        • VGRO is fine for TFSA/RRSP long-term as it’s almost completely hands-off. You may want to take a look at XGRO – essentially the same product, but slightly lower MER. Another tweak is to look at a discount brokerage that allows for free ETF trades. Although a sponsor for this site, we like Questrade right now for brokerages that offer free ETF trades (we have personal investment accounts with them).

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  5. Excellent article, thanks for all the information shared.

    I am interested by the all-in-one ETF, for the easy management and growth. VGRO and XGRO are similar and it is one of them that interests me.

    Like others asked, I am interested in knowing a little more what the strategy could be when it is close to retirement. In one of your comments, if I understood correctly, it is to buy bonds ETFs and sell all-in-one ETFs ideally in small amounts, is this correct?

    Another question, VGRO and XGRO are recommended for long-term investments. How long is that time span 30, 20, 10 years? Does 10-15 years fall into that long-term definition? which is my case.

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    • Hi Adriana!

      Thanks for the kind words about the article. Based on what we are reading, seems some all-in-one ETFs are gaining more assets under management over time which is great for DIY investors. These funds are making it more easy for folks to invest and stay invested, and people are getting onboard!

      Although we don’t personally own XGRO or VGRO ourselves (due to our past investing strategy), we believe they are great funds as per article.

      1. A thing to consider as you get closer to retirement is changing your asset mix from growth (GRO) to something more balanced. It’s not a must, but a consideration. The reason why is more equities over bonds comes with more short-term volatility. That can be tough to stomach when you need any money saved to pay for expenses when not working. For that reason, many retirees consider a higher fixed income portion in retirement. Again, not a must. One thing to consider is a “cash wedge” that Mark wrote about on his site:
      https://www.myownadvisor.ca/cash-wedge-opening-investment-taps/

      https://www.myownadvisor.ca/how-much-cash-should-you-keep/

      2.Our personal thinking is funds like VGRO, XGRO, other are more than fine for 10-15 year investing timelines. Certainly, any money you need to spend, in the coming year should be in cash. Any money needed in the coming 2-5 years, should likely be in fixed income or bonds (see cash wedge) but anything over 5 or definitely 10 years, can likely be invested in equities. Similar concepts shared here:
      https://www.cashflowsandportfolios.com/savings-by-age-are-you-saving-enough/

      Hope that helps from our insights and experiences!
      CAP

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  6. Hi CAP,

    Thank you very much for such a detailed response, I appreciate it.

    I will consider your comments and read the articles you have mentioned, it makes me think and re-evaluate my strategy.

    It is incredible that you and other folks are sharing your experiences and knowledge. I am graceful for that because 10-14 years ago there was no information available and financial advisors at that time seems to me, they did not have time to share or educate their clients.

    Please keep sharing information.

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    • Will do and appreciate your kind words back! 🙂

      Do share our site with others and yes, happy to help and share our knowledge and experiences!
      CAP

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  7. Hello, CAP,

    Great post! I am semi-retired at 50, and have about 10 years before I will need any cash flow from my investments. I am keen on the Model ETF Portfolio #3. In what proportions would you suggest purchasing the listed ETFs (VTI, VXUS, and ZCN)? Would you suggest adding a fixed income component to weather any market extremes? If the fixed income portion was, say, 20%, it would be interesting to know how such a constructed portfolio would have performed against an all in one like XGRO.

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    • Thanks very much.

      Gosh, hard to say. What are your asset allocation goals? I mean, historically, VTI has been on fire for the last 10 years overall but that doesn’t mean international equities won’t deliver in the future either….time will tell!

      I know for me (Mark), I’m striving to have more USD assets over time in my portfolio, including owning more VTI.
      https://www.myownadvisor.ca/lessons-learned-in-diversification/

      I think adding bonds, some?, is very helpful if you feel you will panic sell if (rather when) stocks dive 10%, 20% or more. You might want to check out this tool from my (Mark) helpful sites page from Steadyhand – scroll down to find it. Let us know your thoughts!
      CAP

      Link:
      https://www.myownadvisor.ca/helpful-sites/

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  8. I am close to 80 and will be selling my house shortly. It will give me 1 million to invest. What do i do with such a large sum?

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  9. Hi, for someone retired age 50 with equal size RRSP and Non-reg account.
    What ETFs would you recommend in each account below?

    Non-Registered = ZCN + XAW + bonds ?(Add XAW so no more than 20% Canada overall?)
    RRSP = VTI(US) + XAW + bonds? (more Global equities)
    TFSA = XEQT (100% equity as will not touch for decades)

    How about VDY(bit more dividends) instead of ZCN in N account?

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    • Gosh, hard to recommend ever but XAW is a great diversification beyond Canada. I/we know some investors that own quite a bit of XAW inside their RRSPs, TFSAs.

      I/we also know investors that enjoy owning VTI as well, especially inside the RRPS/RRIF so if you decide to own a bit of VTI then there is overlap with XAW.

      We believe you could simplify your portfolio by owning just XIU + XAW + whatever mix of bonds/cash/GICs you wish to avoid currency conversion headaches.

      You could also consider owning VGRO, XGRO, ZGRO for really simple investing using an all-in-one fund.

      Thoughts?
      CAP

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      • Sounds good CAP.

        I own VCN (similar to XIU) and VXC (similar to XAW).
        Also own VTI and VGRO.

        I haveBucket1 for 0-3 year (mostly GICs)
        Bucket2 for 4-9 years ( Stocks + Bonds)
        Bucket3 for 10+ years (100% stocks)

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        • Yes, VCN is very similar to XIU (different index of course) but VXC and XAW are very close too as you know!

          VTI is outstanding for low-cost U.S. market investing.

          If you have 0-3 years for GICs, my goodness, seems otherwise you are set 🙂

          Well done!
          CAP

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