What is the Longevity Pension Fund and should you own it?

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Back in 2021, there was a lot of buzz about the Purpose Investments Longevity Pension Fund and for good reason – it sought out to solve a number of big problems that retirees face.

A couple of years later, has this fund fulfilled its promise?

What is the Longevity Pension Fund and should you own it?

Read on in our updated post and reflections since we chronicled the pros and cons a couple of years ago!

Top retirement questions

The top questions to be answered for most retirees are the following, in no particular order:

  1. How long will my money last?
  2. How will I generate sufficient income for my retirement?
  3. Did I even save enough for retirement?

These are seemingly short, simple questions but they do not have simple, easy answers…

Answers to these questions are also very personal – they vary from person to person given they depend on a range of factors including but not limited to amount of assets owned, the ability to generate income from those assets owned, tolerance for investing risk, inflation, taxation, spending needs, and yes, longevity. 

In this updated post, we wonder if a recent solution to retirement income planning (the Longevity Pension Fund from Purpose Investments) is the answer.

Why the Longevity Pension Fund got some press

Over the past few decades, the savvy Canadian investor has realized that defined benefit (DB) pension plans have been on the way out – meaning – companies are simply not offering them any longer.

This trend has been significant for two big reasons:

  1. The liability to fund retirement has shifted from the company directly to the employee, or you, the investor, and
  2. Canadians will need to rely on increasingly, themselves, to improve their financial literacy to ensure they are owning financial assets that meet their needs, for the right reasons. Ideally, all financial plans come way before jumping into financial products. A reminder about this again later in our post!

The launch of the Longevity Pension Fund (by Purpose Investments) in summer 2021 was essentially trying to pick up the slack where traditional, defined benefit pension plans used to play a role for many Canadians: offering up some pension-like cash for life.

From their site:

“Receive income that lasts your entire life** through monthly distributions so that you can retire with confidence and peace of mind.”

How does the Longevity Pension Fund work?

At a high level, the longevity pension fund was launched like a mixed product – a balanced mutual fund (47% equities/38% fixed income/15% alternatives – current asset mix upon launch), an annuity, and a defined benefit pension.

Given wealth accumulation for investors is relatively straightforward, the fund was designed to support wealth decumulation – which can be complex. We’ll link to an article later on though that simplifies this for you!

To support retirement income planning, this is where the Longevity Pension Fund comes in – the main features include:

1. Income for life, but without the guarantees. As mentioned, the Longevity Purpose Fund is a mutual fund that any investor can buy. Once purchased, and the investor is 65 or older, the fund will pay a distribution for life (at least that is the plan).  Purpose Investments has stated that the 6.15% yield may sound high, but to maintain that yield they would only need to achieve an annual return of 3.5% net which is well below historical returns for a 60/40ish portfolio.  Combined with mortality credits (investors who die sooner than expected), Purpose Investments has stated that 6.15% is conservative and can possibly go higher in the future. On the flip side, the distributions are not guaranteed and if there is a severe bear market, the yield could potentially be reduced (or even eliminated).

Current to the time of this post:

For a 65-year-old, the distribution levels are at or above the initial starting rate of 6.15% in 86% of the cases, and at or above 5% and 4% in 96% and 99% of the cases, respectively. – Source.

2. You can get some of your investment back. With annuities and defined benefit pensions, you don’t typically get your contributions back. With this Longevity Fund, if you sell the fund you will get your initial investment minus any income payments. For example, if you have invested $100k into the fund, and have been paid out $10k, then you get back $90k if you sell.  At a yield of 6.15%, essentially you can get some capital back up to 16 years of being invested in the fund. After that point, consider yourself invested for life.

3. The taxation of the distributions will be tax efficient. At last check, The Longevity Fund will pay out about 50% return of capital and the remaining will be a mix of capital gains, dividends and interest. This means that in a taxable investment account, the distributions will be fairly tax-efficient (much more so than a defined benefit pension payment).

4. The Fund does not pass onto heirs. As mentioned above, the mortality credits are how this fund will sustain its yield into the future, which also means that the fund and its payout do not pass onto your spouse/heirs.  For investors with a spouse/heirs, this is one of the largest drawbacks of the Longevity Fund.

Of course, the devil is in the details.

Instead of repeating much of the content found on various sites related to this subject, we’ll just reference our colleagues in the financial community that have already written about this fund.

We’ve provided some excerpts from those past articles below.

With thanks to Jon Chevreau and the team at MoneySense:

Consider the Longevity Pension Fund (LPF) as follows: “Retired actuary and retirement expert Malcolm Hamilton describes the LPF as “quite an ambitious undertaking. I’d say it’s partly variable annuity, part tontine and part mutual fund.” Canada’s financial industry has been much better at creating wealth-accumulation products than decumulation vehicles, Hamilton says, adding he’s “quite pleased they’re doing this and will watch with fascination as the experiment proceeds.” 

Based on Dale Robert’s post from Cut the Crap Investing:

Given many retirees don’t want to manage their own investments, and may want to enjoy life “without financial worry” – “The Purpose Longevity Pension Fund will allow Canadians to top up their Canada Pension Plan and Old Age Security payments. Retirees may have other private pensions and other assets within the mix. The fund will allow a retiree to pensionize a large percentage of their liquid assets. The approach would remove much of the stock and bond market (volatility) risk.”

Rob Carrick from The Globe and Mail also wrote about the dynamics/drivers behind the fund (subscribers only):

“The Longevity fund was created to supplement income from the Canada Pension Plan and Old Age Security and help pay fixed living costs, said Som Seif, CEO of Purpose Investments Inc. “It’s designed for someone who doesn’t know how long they’re going to live and doesn’t want to run out of money,” he said. “It’s all about longevity risk.””

As per Rob’s post, you might want to consider this fund if:

    1. You’re looking for a “turn-key solution for generating retirement income.”
    2. “You are prepared to commit long-term to the fund and don’t see yourself swapping it out for something else down the line.”
    3. “You want some assurance you won’t outlive your savings.”

Million Dollar Journey also had some interesting things to say about this fund:

“Essentially when you put money into the Purpose Longevity Pension Fund they’re going to keep track of two separate parts.

A) The original money you invested.

B) The investment returns that your money has gained.

The stream of money into your bank account each year (that is very likely to be 6.15% of your original invested amount even though it’s not guaranteed) is going to include some of “A” and some of “B”.

The key here is that when you pass away your estate will get back all of “A” that has not already been “paid back to you” over the course of your retirement.  

HOWEVER – all of “B” that remains, will be left in the fund.  In this way, there is a sort of annuity/tontine aspect to spreading the risk of longevity around all of the investors.”

How much will you earn from the Longevity Pension Fund?

Around time of launch in 2021, this was the data and class structure:

…essentially if you’re near or approaching age 65, the fund targets to deliver close to 6% or more to investors depending on the asset decumulation cohort they fall into:

Longevity Pension Fund

With thanks from Dale’s site for reference.

From Purpose at time of launch in summer 2021:

“The fund has two classes: an Accumulation Class (for individuals who are saving for retirement or not yet retired) and a Decumulation Class (for individuals 65 and over). By investing in the Accumulation Class, your assets can continue to grow, and the month after you turn 65 your investment will be automatically switched into the Decumulation Class, and will start receiving income based on your investment in the fund. The best part? There is no taxable event upon this switch.”

Of note, be mindful of the money management fee range. Depending upon the class of the mutual fund purchased, the money management fee will differ.

(Recall F-series class units of mutual funds tend to be available only through a financial representative, often through a fee-based account where you pay a single annual fee for services. A-series class units tend to be the most costly option because money management fees tend to include trailing commissions paid to advisors. We don’t like those here on this site!)

A few years ago, we recall Purpose was going to consider a D-class fund. This series is designed for do-it-yourself investors, and as such, usually has lower money management fees because of the no-advice structure. Something to think about…if you want to own this fund.

Why the Longevity Pension Fund could work well

A key feature of this Longevity Pension Fund is a script from the annuity playbook – mortality credits. Similar to an annuity, you are participating in a pool of credits – those people that die young. When you die, your estate gets your initial contribution minus the total amount of income payments. The investment gains generated by your investments over the years stay in the fund and are used to top up monthly payments for everyone else.

Unlike an annuity though, you can get out of the fund – this fund is not a one-way binding contract.

From Purpose just after launch:

“Unlike many traditional annuities or other lifetime income products, the Longevity Pension Fund is not meant to feel like a binding contract. You can change your mind and access the lesser of your unpaid capital** (i.e., your invested capital less the distributions you’ve received) or current NAV. Your beneficiaries are entitled to the same amount if you pass away. Once your cumulative distributions surpass your invested capital, there will no longer be any redeemable value left. Please speak to your advisor or see the prospectus for further details.”

The fund was also designed similar to many pension plan funds or funds of funds – a balanced mix of stocks, bonds and other investments that should* meet their income obligations to unitholders.

*The financial future is always very cloudy!

Here is the asset mix now as of October 2023:

Longevity Pension Fund Sectors October 2023

Source: https://www.retirewithlongevity.com/fund/performance-portfolio-breakdown

What the pros and cons in owning the Longevity Pension Fund?

While the fund is available for all kinds of accounts (including tax-free savings accounts (TFSAs) and registered retirement income funds (RRIFs)), potentially the best home for most investors is to keep this fund inside a registered account. This way, you avoid the taxable mix of capital gains, dividends and interest inside a taxable account. That said, a reminder that RRSP/RRIF withdrawals are taxable income – so the income generated inside these types of registered accounts will be taxed upon withdrawal – your pension-like income is not all for you to keep!

Second, we should highlight beyond the name of this fund, this fund is designed to be a long-term investment. If you like to dive in-and-out of financial products, this fund is not for you.

Third, while we believed that monthly payments seemed juicy at the time, and still are since they deliver 6% or more, we simply don’t see capital gains or major returns coming from this fund. We believe in growth in retirement / asset decumulation too.

Finally, the income promise is just a target. So, distribution income cuts from this mutual fund, could happen even though most payments have been very steady since inception.

Here is how other bloggers and writers feel about this product:

From Dale’s site:

  • “If all goes according to plan and one has an extended life span, the reward is a higher payout than an annuity would have provided in your later years. Interestingly, the biggest benefit over an annuity appears to be if you expire early !!”
  • “I can earn over 6% with Enbridge and have a pretty safe dividend plus dividend increase s. Also, I was lucky to buy the banks at their lows like Bmo Bns and Cm also averaging 6%. I had excellent growth and I do know the risks of market corrections etc. But I like the fact of annual dividend increases. I will let the kids worry about how much principal is left in my estate. BLUE-CHIP DIVIDEND STOCKS IS THE WAY TO GO FOR ME.”
  • “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is”
    Most assuredly, I don’t need to pay Som Seif 0.6% to 1.1% of my stash, to do something I can do via TDDI with a couple of clicks of the mouse, for under 0.2% plus a couple of $9.95 commissions a year. The difference looks better in my jeans than it does in his.”

Some other comments take it up a notch – good and not-so-good from The Globe and Mail:

  • “Quite sad to read all these negative replies from those who clearly do not understand what they are talking about. This product is a ‘tontine’ – a type of pooled investment strategy that has been around for literally hundreds of years. I have no idea why Rob would not have mentioned this in the article. Google it to learn more. Good for Purpose bringing this to market. There are pros and cons to the strategy, like anything else, but it is a perfectly legitimate and reasonable option for many investors and to my knowledge, nothing like this currently exists in the Canadian investment landscape.” 
  • “This is exactly what a Ponzi Scheme does. Any time you see the term “Return of Capital” as part of the description be very wary. This is not a 6% return if your capital when returned is reduced by the amount you paid yourself. It’s a less than 0% return! This product is illegal in my opinion and should not be allowed to proceed. What a mess!”
  • “Assuming start date age 65, terminal date age 81, the implied return is zero!
    If the person lives until 85, the return is 2%. How amazingly attractive!”

Should you own the Longevity Pension Fund?

The readers are not wrong. Someone who started with this fund at age 65 and received say 6.15% would be paid back their initial investment by age 81.

Look at it this way:

$100,000 invested. Get 6.15% back per year. That’s about 16 years.

So, what’s our take? Would we invest in this fund?

The answer is “no”.

The reasons are as follows:

  • At Cashflows & Portfolios, we are in our mid-40s and early 50s now respectively. We have another 20-25 years before we even consider such an income product. Even then, we might never invest in one since while income is great; dividends and distributions are great; total return matters in retirement too. 
  • Monthly payments are not guaranteed. If you are looking for income security in retirement, a target payment is not the same as a guarantee. From Jon Chevreau’s article:

“The targeted return is approximately 3.5% net of fees. Consequently, approximately 50% of the distribution is expected to be return of capital. People should not imagine that they are earning 6.15%; a 3.5% net return is quite attractive in this environment. Of course, there is no guarantee that you will earn the 3.5%.”

Here are the returns, just one example:

Longevity Pension Fund Returns

Source: https://www.retirewithlongevity.com/fund/performance-portfolio-breakdown

  • We really like the fact this is not a long-term, one-way annuity contract but we don’t like the fact that essentially you can create your own income stream, pay no fee, pay yourself 6.15% from your own $100,000 (just an example) and obtain the same returns on your own. See our simple case study later on below.  So, the best “death value” for this fund is at least living to age 81 or 82. Alternatively, we believe you could own your own mix of low-cost ETFs, save on fees, and generate at least 6% over the next few decades. History says you could.

Here are some of the Best ETFs to Build Wealth with. We’ll be updating this post soon too!

For additional reading, check out My Own Advisor’s post on moaty stocks to own with a reference to low-cost XIU for Canada and then XAW for ex-Canada investing should you wish to avoid any individual stocks:

Weekend Reading – Building a moaty stock portfolio

As of summer 2023:

“On that note, if you want to avoid any individual stocks consider a mix of XIU for Canadian stock exposure and XAW to own the rest of the world or an all-in-one fund too.”

ETF SymbolMER# of holdings5-Year Return10-Year ReturnSince Inception
XIU0.18%60 Canadian stocks7.98%8.89%7.34%
XAW0.22%Over 9,500 beyond Canadian stocks7.86%N/A8.59%
  • While Purpose is using a mutual fund structure for this fund, the underlying investments are Purpose ETFs. A LOT of them. So, there is a bias to marketing this fund. More assets under management.

Source: https://www.retirewithlongevity.com/fund/performance-portfolio-breakdown

  • There is no inflation protection. We mentioned this in 2021 and it remains true in 2023. Have you seen inflation? With other assets, such as a higher % of stocks vs. bonds, you may be able to generate similar or higher returns than the fund may deliver over time. A reminder that some dividend-paying stocks can increase their dividends over time to help you with your inflation-fighting power in your senior years. Of course, this is not a must, just a consideration.
  • As part of any financial plan, we believe plans come before products. So, best to do your own homework and math to see if you need this fund at all as part of your retirement income toolkit. Your plan might have a home for this fund just not for all your assets. Meaning, you may not need to go all-in on this fund given your income security with government benefits like CPP and OAS, along with other income streams. Figure out if you need such a product after your financial plan is defined. We can always help you run the math below for a very low fee compared to others!
(As you know, Joe and I are using professional financial tools to manage our early retirement (and using the tools to help out any DIY investors with their retirement projections too!) In fact, using these tools, we did a little study. 🙂 We assumed you were a retiree at age 65 today. We also assumed you were curious on how long a $100k portfolio (in TFSA) invested in 60% equities and 40% bonds would last – with a 6.15% withdrawal rate. This would mimic the Longevity Fund distributions. To really put it to the test, we took the worst 20-year period (sequence of returns) since 1965, what was the result? The money ran out by age 93. Poor returns combined with a high withdrawal rate resulted in the depletion of the account. However, who knows if the Longevity Fund would have reduced distributions over this same period. Some other food for thought, if the same investor simply reduces their withdrawal from 6.15% to 5.5%, the TFSA would be sustainable until age 100. Reduce the distribution a little more to 4.5%, based on historical returns, and you can pass on the entire original investment ($100k) to your heirs. Note that these withdrawals in these examples do not increase with inflation to be comparable with the Longevity Fund.)

Final Thoughts

Overall, this fund remains a very creative product but sometimes creativity and convenience can come at a cost.

The Longevity Pension Fund might be well suited for some investors/retirees that want to keep some of their assets in a turn-key solution. That’s good and we have no issue with that.

Just be mindful of who is the key master with any financial product!

Further Reading:

What is Old Age Security (OAS) and how can you avoid the OAS clawback?

How to decumulate assets in retirement?

Could you retire if the Global Financial Crisis happened again?

Looking for help?

If you’ve already been investing for some time, and want to know if you’re on track to meet any long-term goals including semi-retirement or retirement, we’re here to help.

Again, flip us an email or a comment. We reply to everything we can.

In addition to any asset accumulation support, we believe all DIY investors should understand asset decumulation too – how to enjoy the money you’ve worked so hard to build in a tax-smart way as you manage your retirement portfolio.

Figuring out when to draw down your RRSP/RRIF assets, by how much, and when amongst other assets and accounts like TFSAs, your pension; when to take CPP or OAS and more is complex work.

We can help at a lower-cost than most!

We now offer two great low-cost solutions…a DIY solution and a Done-For-You solution.

If you are interested in obtaining private projections for your financial scenario, read more about our low-cost retirement projections services here.

Thanks for your readership!

We look forward to sharing more detailed posts and financial wealth-building articles with you!

Mark and Joe.

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10 thoughts on “What is the Longevity Pension Fund and should you own it?”

  1. Thanks for the comparison of this fund against managing one’s own near equivalent portfolio. I “felt” that this fund wasn’t right for us, and seeing your analysis confirmed it.

    Thank you

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    • Thanks Bob. This fund has many great benefits, and could be useful for part of a retirement portfolio but I think our summary is clear that there are more considerations than just the target 6.15% income distribution.

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    • Yes…many Canadian DIY investors have been rewarded with a long-term strategy to buy and hold a basket of dividend stocks and/or own low-cost ETFs, or both. So we have no need to change course here either 🙂
      CAP

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  2. I find the product intriguing. In your analysis at the end where you plot the historical returns, you miss the critical nuance of this product, and what it offers: by age 87 or so, half of the participants will probably have passed on, and by 93-94 or so, about 75% will probably have passed on. Hence, I expect that if one incorporates actuarial tables with historical stock/bond returns, there’s a good chance that not only would the fund not run out of money, but it would also be able to pay increasing returns (to those with longevity), just as the fund suggests in their literature.

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    • Thanks Daniel. You are possibly correct that from an actuarial point of view the fund will work out as expected – those that die off will fully support payouts of those still alive (and then some). I guess the proof will be if this happens and, with any fund, what is the survivorship bias it does what it says it will do over time. 🙂 We remain a bit skeptical ourselves. Instead, we’ll rely on a combination of dividend income + total returns from lower-cost ETFs + a modest cash wedge to fund any retirement needs for simplicity.

      Are you considering this product yourself?
      CAP

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  3. It does not seem that this makes sense in todays 5% plus GIC environment when added to all the other downsides.
    If I take out at 65 and live to 82 I essentially make no money. May have been something to look at in 2021 with rates at .5%….

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    • Thanks Dale, we agree. A blended portfolio of 60/40 today is likely now to deliver 6% or so returns and you don’t have to give your money away 🙂

      CAP

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